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>From: Jeremy Bradley <jeremyb@nor.com.au>
>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>Subject: RE: Rumsfeld Says He May Drop New Office of Influence
>Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 18:51:33 +1100
>
>At 10:14 PM 7/03/02 -0500, you wrote:
> >
>Snip........
>
>
> >if the human psyche is taken to be universal, all human groups are
>potentially
> >bloodthirsty and exploitative, given the proper historic circumstances
>and
> >means at their disposal.
> >
> >
> >
>Hi all
>I'm Sorry if my discussion with Vincent got a little out of hand. Scott's
>statement above encapsulates the debate. Vincent appears to be saying that
>it is human nature to be bloodthirsty and exploitative. Whereas I claim
>that there are peoples who aren't. However when I have attempted to argue
>this point with the examples from my experience it resulted in an exchange
>which has departed from memetics.
>Let's get back to discussing the memes.
>Jeremy
>
>
I'd say humans are potentially bellicose, but that circumstances matter.
There's th difference between potentiality and actuality.
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