Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id WAA21548 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Tue, 5 Mar 2002 22:27:01 GMT X-Originating-IP: [194.117.133.84] User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 22:18:18 +0000 Subject: Re: Example of an aggresive irrational meme From: Steve Drew <srdrew_1@hotmail.com> To: Jom-emit <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Message-ID: <B8AAEF2D.2AC%srdrew_1@hotmail.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2002 22:21:06.0840 (UTC) FILETIME=[0B642180:01C1C494] Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 10:35:00 -0900
> From: "Philip Jonkers" <philipjonkers@prodigy.net>
> Subject: Re: Example of an aggresive irrational meme
>
> Hi Steve,
>
>>> IMHO: In My Humble Opinion;
>>> IMO: In My Opinion;
>>> IIRC: If I Recall (Remember or perhaps Retrieve) Correctly;
>>> LOL: Lots of Laughs;
>>> FUBAR: Go See `Saving Private Ryan';
>
>> I've seen Saving Private Ryan, but don't recall FUBAR
>
> That's weird, because the acronym was used repeatedly and was
> even elaborated upon by corporal Upham. Anyway, I'll quit playing around:
> FUBAR: Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition...
> Ring a bell?
Still not I'm afraid. Not a bad film though, just not worth all the praise
that was heaped upon it. he did much better with Band Of Brothers.
>
>>> ps. As for not passing on: yes it is... perhaps not to everyone but it
> still
>>> winded up in
>>> my mailbox.
>
> Steve:
>> Many things have transmission potential, but die due to the environment
> they
>> find themselves in. This one died in my environment (my brain) as i refuse
>> to pass it on.
>
> It only `died out' in your mind, not in many (less rational) others....
This is true. And as a rational person should you aid propagating crap? :-)
>
> Steve:
>> Also IMO memes don't have traits such as aggressive or irrational any more
>> than they have a colour, as the meme is the behaviour, rather than a
>> possessor of the behaviour.
>
> Of course, qualifiers like `aggressive', 'nice' or 'selfish' pertain only to
> decision making
> entities. In memetics when we say a meme is aggressive, selfish we mean that
> in a metaphorical
> not literal way. An aggressive meme is a meme that is designed to emphasize
> on transmission
> rather than virtue.
>
> Philip.
I prefer successful to aggressive. It lives or it dies. Another may be
infectious which also does without assigning behaviours to a meme.
Regards
Steve
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