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On Monday, February 18, 2002, at 06:13 , Richard Brodie wrote:
> Rational empiricists
> get hung up on the myth aspect of religions, taking it on blind faith
> that a
> make-believe story cannot possibly have any value. This is an irrational
> position and a blind spot in the worldviews of many smart people.
Yup. Whether you think this is my worldview, I don't know, but it isn't.
I tend to think that religion has usurped, or moves into, the place that
art should be taking, which is, as you say-
> By making and recognizing
> literary allusions, we smile and bond with others. This all has real
> value
> although it's difficult to test empirically, if for ethical
> considerations
> alone.
And I am disturbed by looseness of myth and narrative (call it bad art,
if you want) just as much as I am disturbed by looseness with facts, AKA
pseudoscience. There is a great degree of both, and, so far, almost all
religions are criticized by yours truly as bad art.
So, yeah, my main objection to religion is aesthetic, not empirical.
- Wade
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