Re: are memes born of complex systems?

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    So, accordingly, memetics will get simpler, but specific memes will get more
    complex because they selfishly require more from their environment.?
    ( that of course implies that a meme is an organism!!!)

    T.

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Bruce Jones" <BruceJ@nwths.com>
    To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
    Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 9:48 PM
    Subject: RE: are memes born of complex systems?

    >
    >
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: Tyger [SMTP:void@internet-zahav.net.il]
    > > Subject: are memes born of complex systems?
    > >
    > > 1. is evolution a feature of complex systems? (thus implying the
    secondary
    > > nature of evolution to the primacy of complexity in nature)
    > [BJ]
    > From my studies in biology and a take off on the chaos theory ....
    > IMHO no.
    > Systems tend to get simpler as they progress because the complex has
    > been evolved out -- as a whole. The organisms as individuals do tend to
    get
    > more complex because they selfishly require more from their environment.
    > > or
    > > 2. is complexity a feature of evolution (Thus implying the opposite)
    > [BJ]
    > See above!!
    >
    > Bruce
    >
    >
    >
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