Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id VAA05487 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Sat, 6 May 2000 21:21:23 +0100 From: Diana Diamond <ddiamond@ozemail.com.au> Message-Id: <200005062019.GAA19703@fep7.mail.ozemail.net> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Re: Fwd: Researchers Identify Brain's Moral Center Date: Sun, May 7 2000 7:19:30 GMT+1100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
you can trace the right/wrong distinctions back to the Reptilian brain and the mapping of territory using waypoints (as in 'mine..not mine..mine) etc this gets abstracted into correct/incorrect, right/wrong etc
The neurological and psychological data suggests that there is a PRIMARY process in allowing data to 'enter' 'in here' and this is a filtering system based on rigid EITHER/OR distinction making. Once any data gets passed this it then comes under SECONDARY processing that assumes that since it got past the primary it MUST be meaningful in some way; thus in secondary thinking all is meaningful.
This secondary processing deals with the analysis of harmonics such that you can bring out or suppress aspects of data allowing for a more 'refined' image of the data to emerge. This processing includes the use of internal feedback processes in the from of memories that are added to enhance meaning.
If the primary process is at fault, or allows through something 'random' so the secondary process, being as trusting of the primary as it is, cannot tell that there is a 'fault' and will treat the data as all other data it gets.
The trick is to get past the primary processing, the barrier, and the way to do that is to use a wave approach...
Thus understanding how the primary process works as well as its 'location' in the brain is useful if you want to (a) bypass it and get you message 'in here' without moral filtering or (b) build it up, make it either very rigid or more discerning when processing data.
best,
Chris.
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From: Chuck Palson <cpalson@mediaone.net>
Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 13:56:40 +0100
To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Fwd: Researchers Identify Brain's Moral Center
I find this interesting although far from surprising. Nevertheless, I was glad
that WTS sent it along. However, I would like to ask either Wade or anyone out
there a question:
What does this have to do with memetics?
"Wade T.Smith" wrote:
> Researchers Identify Brain's Moral Center
>
> <a href="http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtPrint/EMIHC000/333/7228/280174.html?k=bas">http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtPrint/EMIHC000/333/7228/280174.html?k=bas>
> ePrint
>
> May 4, 2000
>
> SAN DIEGO (Reuters Health) - The brain's moral center‹the bit that sorts
> "right" from "wrong"‹has been identified on brain scans, researchers
> reported here at the American Academy of Neurology's 52nd annual meeting.
>
> Drs. Ricardo de Oliveira-Souza and Jorge Moll of the Neurology and
> Neuroimaging Group, LABS and Hospitais D'or, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, used
> magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) to find out which parts of the brain
> were working when people were asked to make moral judgments.
>
> Ten subjects (six men and four women), aged 24 to 43 years, were asked to
> make a series of moral judgments while lying inside an MRI scanner.
>
> On headphones, the study participants listened to a series of statements,
> such as "we break the law if necessary," "everyone has the right to
> live," and "let's fight for peace." In each case, the subjects were asked
> to silently judge if each sentence was "right" or "wrong."
>
> The participants also listened to sentences with no moral content, such
> as "stones are made of water" or "walking is good for health," and judged
> these in a similar fashion.
>
> Results from brain scans taken as these judgments were being considered
> showed that making moral choices was associated with activation of the
> brain's frontal poles‹an area known as Brodmann area 10.
>
> According to the research team, their findings tie in with previous
> observations that people who injure this area of the brain may exhibit
> severe antisocial activity.
>
> Copyright 2000 Reuters Limited.
>
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