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Robin Faichney wrote:
> The question being, why on earth would AI systems want to think like
humans?
This question makes an assumption that THEY (the AI systems) can WANT
anything by themselves.. even the most adavanced paralel neurocomputational
models are built on the assumption that the human neurological system is the
template which must be replicated.. so it goes without saying that if this
is the template.. we the CREATORS.. will create THEM in our own image..
meaning in this context that we understand Intelligence as that which
happens to us (including thoughts, desires etc..) and thus that is what we
will replicate and ipso facto if we will succeed thats what they will be
doing.. but I agree that this is a philosophical question and not a memetic
one..
however if memes can be shown to have been behind our drive of creating
these AI systems it goes without saying that they will immediatly use the
new habitat for propagation and then this forum is the place to discuss the
issue..
Best
Tyger
"Problems cannot be solved at the same level of awareness that created
them."
Albert Einstein
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robin Faichney" <robin@faichney.demon.co.uk>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 5:32 AM
Subject: Re: Yes, but will there still be memes?
> On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, Tyger wrote:
> >Raymond O. Recchia wrote:
> >Sounds like a serious lecture. The head of Sun Micro and
> >> Douglas Hofstader. So what happens to the memes when humanity is
> >> replaced by robots that think like humans?
> >
> >T: if indeed those AI systems will THINK LIKE HUMANS, why should
anything
> >happen to the memes, they (the memes) will simply keep on replicating ,
> >using hardware instead of wetware..
>
> The question being, why on earth would AI systems want to think like
humans?
>
> Or: why would they want to think?
>
> Or: why would they want (anything)?
>
> I think each of these questions merits serious discussion, but I'm not
sure
> this is the most appropriate forum for it.
>
> --
> Robin Faichney
>
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