Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id MAA21205 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Fri, 17 Mar 2000 12:43:32 GMT Subject: Re: Complete thoughts Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 07:41:28 -0500 x-sender: wsmith1@camail2.harvard.edu x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, Claritas Est Veritas From: "Wade T.Smith" <wade_smith@harvard.edu> To: "Memetics Discussion List" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <20000317124129.AAA27620@camailp.harvard.edu@[205.240.180.150]> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Dan Plante made this comment not too long ago --
>However, the most obvious hallmark is persistence of the organizational
>information itself (a clutural analogue of genome).
Perfectly evidenced in ants and termites.
>The overwhelming majority of what we know [about a vanished society]
>comes from written records.
The overwhelming evidence that we have of early human society is burial
plots and cave drawings and fossils.
>At this point, WRITTEN language artifacts would seem to be at
>least one of the order parameters by which cultures emerge and persist,
>due to
>their permanence and flexibility of semantic content.
I haven't seen the Macarena written down once.
The persistence of a dance ritual would seem to be evidence, without
formal calligraphy of its structure, of a cultural artifact, I would
contend, in that both constancy and meaning are found within it. I don't
think the immediacy of art makes it just birdsong, just because there
might only be a record in memory. The experience of that art will be
transferred, if anything was learned.
- Wade
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