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To Joe Dees,but all members are of course welcome to give comment.
Thanks for yours respons.I don't have the need to join the extropy
list,though,I like it here.My respons was only an answer to a question raised by
Richard Brodie.My conception was and is only a mind game_it may be sound
silly but it is something I like to do for myself.
But of course,that is no answer to your reply!
I like,if you wish,to take the game further,just to see what the outcome is,or
could be!?
You wrote,
<This would lead,if taken to its logical consequences,to the absurd situation where
the memes could no longer evolve because no further elaborations could fit inside
our brains.>
Ok,I do agree,that could be one scenario,but I have here another one.
Memes,the ideas we have,have in some future so far outgrowed our brains and
cognitive oploading is also no more possible that memes can't be no more be con-
tained by their own container.Memes have now so much feedback,so much more
knowledge,so far more chance to survive than the 50% which Popperian beings
have,that the quantity of the right info memes than possess completely exclude
the outside world and its irregularities in which they strived.
The world in which the memes than live,lets say a conscient memepool,is a si-
mulation_a copy of the world in which they once lived but without the unexpec-
ted physical hazzards of a humanoid body.
That is_forgetting,collective suicide plans,illness,murder,...are then physical not
existing concepts,but the memes which advocate those things live on.
But,in some manner is the info about the world in which they can find expression
so detailed that the memes, " self-conscient " as they are then,' know ' to what they are capable of.
That is,the meme,let's say for example,the suicide-meme is so strong,so full of
its own " negative nature ",so inbedded with all possible consequences of all
possible suicides for all the possible reasons they know,that the struggle which
the meme leads to carry itself out,that is to commit suicide,is one she cannot
win.
That is,the meme will gyrate itself in its negative nature as long as she finds her-
self in herself_that is she must understand that her existing,her whole " Sein ",
depends on her own negative nature_her negative nature is her " Ding an Sich."
The meme becomes here (a) conscient (being)_memes aren't inflicted to transform
their own internal strives and actions (suicide/murder/...) into deeds:-they have
become ' thinkers ' on their own!!
Of course,you will say that's not possible and I would presumebly
answer that is what memes want us to believe,but either way it is to simple.
If we wish to take the concept of memetics seriously,and I do believe me,and
we think the idea to its full extreme,then there is for me only one plausible out-
come_if memes will propagate themselves through any means possible like R.
Brodie suggests,they will find a way,some how,to something a I mentioned as
above.If memes are likely to be what I think they are,at least,will become,then
they will propagate themselves,vary and thus evolve outside our brains.
What's beyond that I do not know,something analogous to what astro-physics
call " quantumfoam" perhaps!?
But,this could also a lucky guess,isn't it!?
Have fun!!
Regards,
Kenneth
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