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From: "Robert G. Grimes" <grimes@fcol.com>
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Subject: Re: new line: what's the point?
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>
> "Joe E. Dees" wrote:
>
> >As to continental philosophy,
> >check out COMPLEXITY AND POSTMODERNISM:
> >UNDERSTANDING COMPLEX SYSTEMS by Paul Cilliers. I here
> >post my Amazon.com review of the book:
>
> >A seminal work in the philosophy of technology
> >Reviewer: Joe E. Dees from Pensacola, Florida January 8, 2000
> >This work is essential for a cutting-edge understanding of how two independently
> >cultivated lines of investigation - complexity and postmodernism - have fortuitously
> >dovetailed, providing us with a new level of perspective upon the character and
> >evolution of >contemporary technology. I highly recommend reading this work in >tandem
> with Don Ihde's groundbreaking study EXPANDING HERMENEUTICS: >VISUALISM IN SCIENCE,
> itself a phenomenologically well-grounded yet visionary >exposition of where the
> computer-inspired "visual turn" in hermeneutics is leading >us in the 21st century.
>
> And....
>
> >Coarse-grained verisimilitude
> >is revealable with a finer-grained view to be disparity depending
> >upon one's referential frame, and the hermeneutic dialectic between
> >distanciation and appropriation to establish the optimum
> >perspective for viewing an object depends for that optimization upon
> >what aspects of the object one wishes to view. Identicality is an
> >absolute that must withstand the scrutiny of the finest-grained
> >referential frame.
>
> Aw, Joe, just when I was beginning to enjoy it.... :>)
>
> I'm asking Alan Sokal and Jean Bricmont to pay a house call to our board but, if anyone
> uses the word "autopoiesis," I may have to send him a wire... Maybe he willl hurry,
> because I do sense that "autopoiesis" is on the way!
>
> Robin, you have been trumped!
>
> Richard Brodie, is there a memetic antidote equivalent to the Heimlich maneuver?
>
> Please forgive me everyone, I was overcome...
>
> Cordially,
>
> Bob
>
There are babies and bathwater in everything; I am not so
credulous as to believe that gravity is a social construct. I applaud
the work of Alan Sokal and Jean Bricmont; it is useful to winnow
the chaff from the wheat before it taints our bread.
Phenomenology, hermeneutics, semiotics, genetic epistemology,
structuralism, functionalism, memetics, or whatever; I do not care
where a tool comes from if I can make good and justifiable use of
it. To negatively judge and ridicule the works I cited prior to reading
them is a bigotrously prejudicial intellectual behavior. In fact, the
work by Cilliers to which I am referring makes use, among other
things, of fitness landscapes in complex analysis with limited and
uncertain evidence, where the assumption of either the absolute
(only one possibility) or the absolutely relative (where each and
every possibility is equally probable) are considered equally
extreme, and the mean to be charted between them is to derive
from the evidence available that some possibilities are more
probable than others, while some alternatives are not possible at
all, and then to investigate and experiment in the most fruitful
(alternative-narrowing) directions. This method is eminently
pragmatic and scientific, making use of experimental evidence,
statistical probability, logical induction, empirical counterexample
and logical contradiction as criteria for disproof of a contention, the
verification principle, and Popperian Falsifiability. Until evidence
narrows them down, there are usually multistable possible
alternatives, which are sometimes discovered on further perusal to
be components of a single systemic solution, as G-memes and L-
memes are actually different aspects within a single memetic cycle.
>
> --
> Bob Grimes
>
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>
> Man is not in control, but the man who knows he is not in control is more
> in control...
>
> Quoth the Raven, "Nevermore....."
>
>
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