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On Wed, 02 Feb 2000, Joe E. Dees wrote:
>> On Tue, 01 Feb 2000, VANWYHE@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> >I think it is a waste of time to endlessly debate genes vs memes. I don't
>> >give a toss about memes- the idea strikes me as totally presumptuous.
>>
>> How much reading on it have you done?
>>
>This strikes me as a strange question, Robin, especially coming
>from you. Your problem is reductionism; you are trying to reduce
>semantics (the relations between the sign and the signified - the
>things), pragmatics (the relations between the sign and the signifier
>- us), and syntactics (the relations between signs in a sign
>system), the three divisions of semiotics (the realm of meaning) to
>physics and chemistry (the realm of being), and when you atomize
>things, you lose the emergent qualities which arise form complex
>and dynamic interrelation.
I clearly differentiate between physical and intentional information, and have
said almost nothing about the latter. How you think you know my views
in that area puzzles me greatly. Regarding reductionism in general, I have
always been strongly anti. You should address what I say, not what you think
I'd say.
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