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Vincent Campbell wrote:
> Yes, but Galileo's life was at stake over the principles which he troubled
> over sticking to, but he did so in the end.
> Professional death can be another risk- like that bloke who came up with
> continental drift, or Alvarez's catastrophism theory over the dinosaurs
> extinction- but such people stick to to their theories, and those who turn
> out to be right we celebrate their determination, those who turn out to
> bewrong we condemn their obstinacy.
*Professional* death, sure. That is the death (or non-proliferation) of
memes. This is entirely within the model as proposed by Hull (and to a
less-acceptable extent from a memetic perspective, Kuhn) of scientific
evolution. But none of the examples so far adduced shows the death of
anyone for scientific memes.
> Then of course there's Scopes monkey trial.
Nobody died, or even went to jail. And that was about a religious set of
memes, not scientific ones (anyone actually *seen* that textbook? It's
on the web somewhere in a law school site (search on Scopes trial). Not
exactly science so much as a triumphalist faith in progress. More
neo-Lamarckian than Darwinian.
-- John Wilkins, Head, Communication Services, The Walter and Eliza Hall Institute of Medical Research, Melbourne, Australia Homo homini aut deus aut lupus - Erasmus of Rotterdam <http://www.users.bigpond.com/thewilkins/darwiniana.html> Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="wilkins.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for wilkinsContent-Disposition: attachment; filename="wilkins.vcf"
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