Re: Purported mystical "knowledge"

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    At 04:45 PM 16/09/00 -0400, Robert (Bob) Grimes wrote:
    >Unfortunately, when I hear the terms "mysticism" or "spirituality,"
    >there is a great tendency for me to equate it with religion, even though
    >it may not be appropriate. I can handle "spirituality" as I do consider
    >myself "spiritual" in the sense of appreciating non material concepts
    >and relationships where they do not respond or are seem, at first,
    >inaccessible through the scientific method. Still, I do realize that
    >such concepts are products of material processes and, perhaps, probably
    >products of material processes where not understood in that manner.
    Bob, what do you think of the idea that all things spiritual, including the
    secular spirituality you appear to espouse, are part of the memetic world?

    It seems to me that a lot of time has been spent on this listserver
    attempting to find memes in neurons or in behavior, that is, in the
    physical world as an attempt to make them appear "real". Conversely
    Blackmore declares the self, a particular kind of memeplex, to be
    "illusion" i.e., not real. Perhaps there is a non-material reality after
    all and memetics is an attempt to scientifically study that which was
    previously inaccessible thru the scientific method.


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