Re: Fwd: Questions about Islam and violence

From: Ned Wolpert (
Date: Thu Mar 07 2002 - 13:16:58 GMT

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    On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 15:07, Wade T.Smith wrote:
    > As practiced by millions of Muslims, Islam may well be as pacific as any
    > other religion.
    This statement is the crux of the matter. As viewed from an outsider,
    this is quite true. Islam is as much a force of pacifism as any other
    religion. Which is to imply that each religion is as much a force of
    warmongering as the next. (A truism, no? A=B, !A=!B for the most part
    applies to this statement...)

    On a separate but related topic, does the concept of pacifism harbor
    more of a beneficial meme to the genetic host than the concept of
    warmongering? On one hand with pacifism, peace makes it easy to raise
    ones own set of kids. On the other, war reduces competition of genetic
    strains. (When its over) Thoughts?

    Does the 'war' meme trump the 'peace' meme? Or is it always context
    representative and never clear cut. It seems easier to convince people
    to fight than to convince people to stop fighting, and from a meme
    perspective, its easier to rile people up than calm them down. (Course,
    this brings the last question... does the r/k-selection help define
    which meme is more acceptable in a population?)


    Virtually, Ned Wolpert <> 4e75

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