Re: Whales and the Memetic Group definitions

Robin Faichney (
Thu, 30 Sep 1999 21:59:57 +0100

From: Robin Faichney <>
Subject: Re: Whales and the Memetic Group definitions
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 21:59:57 +0100
Message-Id: <99093022005902.00312@faichney>

On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Wade wrote:
> On 9/30/99 19:12, Robert G. Grimes said this-
> >Just the other day I taught my little Lhasa Apso puppy how to sit up and beg.
> >It only took a short period of less than an hour and now she is totally
> >irresistible and has extended the teaching from getting food (the original
> >reward) to other things like a good massage, the scratching of her tummy
> >with the toe of my shoe, etc.
> It is precisely this sort of _behavior_ that moves me to wonder, and I do
> wonder, why anyone thinks a 'meme' is necessary here. Why not just
> abandon it, and go back to where it all starts- in innate genetic and
> developmental abilities, with no need for the additive we are calling
> memes?

You think there's a gene for teaching dogs to beg? :-)

Robin Faichney
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