RE: The information theoretic view Was: JOM

Richard Brodie (
Sun, 5 Sep 1999 10:46:01 -0700

From: "Richard Brodie" <>
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Subject: RE: The information theoretic view Was: JOM
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 10:46:01 -0700
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Robin wrote:

<<Dawkins' "viruses" are virulent memeplexes, not some other type of
replicator, and it is rather dishonest of you to imply otherwise.
(Unless, of course, you genuinely misunderstand Dawkins' position.)>>

You may be surprised to discover just how much I understand. Let me give you
a little tutorial. Dawkins never even uses the word "memeplex" in his essay
on mind viruses ). That
term has been used to mean both a self-sustaining collection of memes and a
loosely defined cultural replicator consisting of people hosting certain
memes and perhaps including artifacts such as books. I don't see how you can
avoid bringing artifacts into the picture when discussing religions, which
is of course what his essay was about. So I repeat:

>Replicators (including genes and memes) play a
>huge and growing role. I suspect, though that more complex cultural
>replicators composed of artifacts and groups of people with same or
>complementary beliefs -- replicators that Dawkins and I call mind
viruses --
>are becoming more and more important as influencers of the future.

Richard Brodie
Author, "Virus of the Mind: The New Science of the Meme"
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