Re: The information theoretic view Was: JOM

t (MemeLab@aol.com)
Sat, 4 Sep 1999 16:59:09 EDT

From: <MemeLab@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 16:59:09 EDT
Subject: Re: The information theoretic view Was: JOM
To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk

In a message dated 9/4/1999 9:16:05 AM !!!First Boot!!!,
robin@faichney.demon.co.uk writes:

>> Bill, I consider intellectual dishonesty to be a foul, and a very
serious one. I get particularly annoyed when I feel my valuable time is
being wasted by it.<<

If this is really happening, then the better approach would be to ignore it.

>> If Richard wants to convince me that he is
interested in understanding any other view than his own, he is welcome
to try, but the impression I've been getting for a long time now is that
he participates here for no other reason than to defend his own
position, and that he uses intellectually dishonest tactics to do so.<<

If you you think that your position is right, what is wrong with defending
it? How exactly was he being dishonest. I can't imagine that Richard's
comments here alone could succeed in obstructing a science of memetics.
Unless of course those interested in developing such a thing allowed it to.

>> He may not be fully aware that he is doing so -- some self-deception may
be involved -- but I don't get the impression he's the sort of person
who often doesn't know what he's doing.
--
Robin Faichney <<

Robin, I appreciate your efforts here, and I hope you continue. I do think
that you are making a mistake here however. Taking yourself to seriously.
And I do think that this has lead you to some unecessary exasperation toward
Richard. By taking this to a personal level on a public list like this, you
forget a principle that can easily translate into memetics -- bad publicity
is better than no publicity. If Richard is really being obstructionist, it
would be wiser to either discuss it privately with him or not at all.

Jake

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