RE: when is a meme selfish?

Lloyd Robertson (
Sat, 28 Aug 1999 12:21:15 -0600

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Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 12:21:15 -0600
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Subject: RE: when is a meme selfish?
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At 06:50 AM 28/08/99 -0700, Richard Brodie wrote:
>My whole point was to show why the label "meme" (Dawkins B/Dennett/Brodie
>definition as information in a mind) was interesting. The information "Jesus
>Saves" in the mind of a Christian evangelist influences more people to have
>that information as part of their mental programming in the future. The same
>information on a rock in Morse code at the bottom of the sea has little if
>any effect on the future. The former is a meme; the latter isn't.

Does a tree that falls in the middle of a forest where there is no one to
hear it emit sound? Maybe we are playing semantics here. I would suggest
the morse code message on the rock in the bottom of the ocean is a meme, it
just isn't a very efficient replicator.


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