Re: facets of meme-talk

Robin Faichney (
Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:01:54 +0100

Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:01:54 +0100
From: Robin Faichney <>
Subject: Re: facets of meme-talk
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In message <>, writes
>Whether plugged into a mind's
>conception of an evolutionary algorithm or not, a gene in fact IS just DNA:

This definition works for biologists, but only because they can take the
DNA's environment forgranted. The DNA is meaningless without the
cellular machinery that decodes it, by biochemically interacting with
it. Outside of this particular context, the gene is *information*, not
any molecule or part thereof.

Don't give too much credence to "the experts" -- sometimes they get just
a bit too specialised.

>I suggest that, in the spirit of Dawkins, genes are indeed naked selfish
>bits of
>DNA, and memes are naked selfish bits of ......hmmm, stumped, here. Help me

It all gets a lot easier if you accept that both genes and memes are
items of information.

Robin Faichney
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