chris lofting (ddiamond@ozemail.com.au)
Tue, 8 Jun 1999 20:50:26 +1000

From: "chris lofting" <ddiamond@ozemail.com.au>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Subject: Levels
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 20:50:26 +1000

Hi Chris...

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Lees <chrislees@easynet.co.uk>
To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Date: Tuesday, 6 July 1999 7:58
Subject: Re: Statistics, wave/particles and 'lies'


>Well, at least I bothered to read his site, which seems like a logical
>if you really want to understand someone. Aren't you getting a little
>overheated about this, perhaps because he refuses to be shot down as
>easily as you require and demand ? When I first read Chris Lofting's
>'theory of everything' I thought it was far fetched and silly. But then
>I warmed to it, although still very sceptical. Then you appeared and
>raised some very powerful points. I think Chris has failed to respond
>adequately to the interference pattern stuff, etc, that you put forward.
>I'm not qualified to judge, so I'm just waiting for some clarification...

I think the 'problem' as far as I am concerned is trying to 'view' models of
reality other than that which we currently have and which I suggest are
'distorted' by projecting method properties onto 'out there' and seeing
these as if 'out there'.

Aaron has failed to respond to the particular interference pattern email I
sent other than to say he cannot understand it. However there are many who
find no problem with it other than what it implies (which to some is great,
to some is stressful, and to others is ridiculous since it can cause one to
reconsider too much of what has been done so far in our map-making)

There are other articles at my website that cover this but he is not
prepared to shift his ground and press the button over the hyperlink... such
an easy thing to do! :-)

There is much in my work (which is on going) that requires us to re-think
many things and this includes development of complementary models (object
bias and relationships bias.. Aaron has raised this issue and it is work
that needs to be done at the particular level, for example, what ideas do we
get about gravity etc by applying the dual model?)

If we look carefully at the data, a levels model does introduce some
concepts that are worth working on. By this I mean that due to the structure
of our neurology that IS hierarchic and levels oriented (1 layer in the
reptilian brain, 3 in the limbic system, 4 in cingulate cortex and 6 in the
neocortex) any mapping ACROSS levels will work like a recursive dichotomy in
that data emerges from the 'middle', 'inbetween' the levels (layers) we
pickup interference.

In the quantum mechanics concepts I am pointing out that the detection of
particles at the slits is one level of analysis -- very precise -- but when
we move back and try to detect things implicitly (through the analysis of
patterns on a photographic plate) we have changed levels, our answer is no
longer 'precise' (statistical analysis starts with a PAIR being treated as
if 'one') but we try to see it as such and so span levels and 'see' patterns
that come from the method of analysis. In this concept, to understand things
you cannot include data from out of your level for to do so leads to
'confusions', all you can do is shift levels, as we have done with TOE in
that adding a dimension (another dichotomy) suddenly all is made 'clear'.

My website deals with the use of dichotomisations to generate 'meaning' and
there is a neurologically-based template that we use to generate this
meaning. If we have adapted to our environment by internalising information
processing characteristics then this template reflects all we can know and
it is used to create instruments that emulate dichotomous processes. This
creates 'resonance' where 'in here' resonates with 'out there'. However this
also allows us to preempt things, to IMPOSE template properties onto
experiment results unconsciously and this can lead us into 'strange' worlds
that might be fun but are also illusions and the deeper we go maintaining
the fantasy the more strange things can become.

I am glad to see that my website 'warmed' you a bit as it suggests that at
least some people can understand it :-)

I am endevouring to restructure things but this takes time and my living has
little to do with my 'homework'...



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