Re: Spirits in The Material World

Rob Clewley (
Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:06:36 +0100 (BST)

Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:06:36 +0100 (BST)
From: Rob Clewley <>
Subject: Re: Spirits in The Material World
In-Reply-To: <v03110701b383d4700147@[]>

On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Rich & Linda Speel wrote:

> I have another area of discussion I would like to broach concerning memes.
> What do you all think that psychedelic substances, like peyote or
> mushrooms, play in understanding memes or creating new ones? Is there a
> root behavior that humans possess without cultural conditioning or genetic
> changes?

I think evolutionary psychology supports this very strongly. I know
there is a lot in this field but I know Barkow, Cosmides and Tooby
edited a pretty good (but somewhat behind the times now I expect) book
called The Adapted Mind: Evolutionary Psychology and the Generation of
Culture which you might find interesting, although the role of
psychedelic substances in the discovery of such innate behaviours
didn't get much of a mention :)

There's probably more reliable (and, unfortunately, more legal)
techniques to determine what are our innate behaviours, since I thought
drugs only mix up your reality with fantasy (since obviously I've never
tried any), but that your fantasies are already heavily laden with
culturally-influenced content.

As for this...

> I hope this list seriously supports a sense of humor.

Hmmm, are you kidding?


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