Re: Information basics 2

Robin Faichney (
Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:56:21 +0100

Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:56:21 +0100
From: Robin Faichney <>
Subject: Re: Information basics 2
In-Reply-To: <000201be8c35$b9558ee0$1d243fce@rb4010>

Richard writes
>>Robin wrote:
>><<In absolute terms, all descriptions made and used by people are
>>subjective, while only the information actually embodied by a physical
>>thing is objective. All the information with which we deal is
>>subjective, however closely it might approximate to information that is
>>actually "out there", in the form of physical reality.>>
>"descriptions made and used by people" sure sounds like a subset of
>"information actually embodied by a physical thing" to me.

OK. Of course, you can say that people in some sense "embody" the
information they use, but I'm using that word in a slightly more
restricted sense. Human bodies are physical things, and so embody
objective information. The information we use, though (or which uses
us), which is processed by our nervous systems, is subjective. I
wouldn't say we embody that, because our possession of it (or vice
versa) could be very fleeting.

Given the paucity of response, I guess this stuff was less than
pellucid, but I'm more than willing to try to elucidate, and there's
more explanation available via the link in the sig.

Robin Faichney
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