Re: reality and other memes

Lloyd Robertson (
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:26:30 -0600

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:26:30 -0600
From: Lloyd Robertson <>
Subject: Re: reality and other memes
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At 10:30 AM 12/04/99 GMT, UEA wrote:
>Dennett calls the illusion of agency the "benign
>user-illusion", but Blackmore disagrees, claiming that the
>illusion isn't even benign - it's pernicious in that our
>memes are deceiving us into thinking we have control. This
>is where Blackmore's call for Zen comes in: if we can just
>relax and let things happen to us, our lives would be a lot

Hold it. If the self is a memeplex then the memeplex must be deceiving
itself into thinking that it is in control! But who are we without a
"self"? Who is the "we" that is making the decision to dissolve our selves
into nothingness? It has to be a competing memeplex. Now that is truly


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