Re: To Stephen Springette from Edryce

Aaron Lynch (
Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:54:23 -0500

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:54:23 -0500
From: Aaron Lynch <>
Subject: Re: To Stephen Springette from Edryce
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>On Sunday, August 30, you sent a message which ws in response to someone
>else's message, which I did not read. So my comments here may be out of
>place. I am just responding to what I read in your message.
>You titled it "Feminist drivel and memetics." You use the terms
>"feminist claptrap," "feminist drivel," "feminist disaster." These are
>pretty strong terms. I would like to know from whence they came---or did
>I miss a whole bunch of stuff? A resume of what you mean would help.
>Later you say, "When we understand these sorts of basic issues,
>everything else will fall into place with crystal clarity. And there
>will be no gender-supremacist movement." Shall I conclude from this that
>the "feminist drivel" and "gender-supremacist movement" somehow relate to
>one another?
>One more question/ You say, " are the producers of variety and
>women are the filters of variety." Could you please elaborate on your
>reasoning here, and give some references?


Good idea to change the heading rather than replicating the original.

Memetics is not about bashing feminists, nor exploiting women, as I was
pointing out before.

It occurs to me that my earlier comment about the gender supremacist
aspects of the "speed seduction" scam might be totally misread. By "gender
supremacist," I specifically meant male supremacist. The program has a
pseudoscientific male-supremacist tone to it, suggesting that women can be
easily wrapped around men's fingers. It purports to be a quick formula for
men to seduce and then control women. Its author goes around the net
talking about diapers and excrement, and suggests that men who don't buy
his products have no sex life. (Hard to imagine what sort of women actually
like this guy, but he has registered a good domain name for his business.)
Unfortunately, the seduction program has been promoted in 3 issues of a
certain "Meme Update" newsletter--but hopefully not again. Neither the
newsletter nor the "seduction" program are in any way central to memetics.
Those who are central to memetics show respect for the field as science,
and not just as a mutual marketing opportunity.

--Aaron Lynch

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