Re: Milk Bottles & Animal IQ

Ton Maas (
Wed, 17 Dec 1997 08:59:36 +0100

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 08:59:36 +0100
From: Ton Maas <>
Subject: Re: Milk Bottles & Animal IQ

Bruce Howlett wrote:
>This may seem an overly simplistic question considering the erudite
>nature of this debate, but how come birds can count at all when humans
>have to be taught this skill?

I don't think one can teach children how to count - only how to do it
*properly*. Education is more about selecting and moulding than about

>Next question: Does memetic theory explain instinct? I have read some
>posts which use instinct as a separate concept.

By definition, it couldn't be instinctive if memetics can explain it, or
what? Instinct is a "stop-gap" concept to indicate some unknown process
which "explains" behaviours without having to resort to learning. By itself
it doesn't explain anything, however.


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