Artificial Societies and memetics

Dr I Price (
Sun, 22 Jun 1997 04:35:53 -0400

Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 04:35:53 -0400
From: Dr I Price <>
Subject: Artificial Societies and memetics
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Shai ophir asks

>I wonder what are the relations between memetics and
complex systems theory. Especially computer simulations of complex system=
We can see the evolutionary development of social relations in computeriz=
simulations (such as "Sugarscape"). Do uou suggest to consider such an
emergance as a meme? The emergent cooperation for example, is not an idea=

which resides somewhere.In fact, it is not located within any of the
entities simulated in a computer. But the cooperation among the virtual
creatures is evolutionary self-developing. Can we consider this cooperati=
a meme?<


I would see it as the emergence of a memetic phemotype [or an ecology of
different memetic phemotypes]. Complex adaptive systems [replicator based=
not only emerge order; they maintain it.

Co-operation, ion either memetic or genetic domains can emerge as a stabl=
evoluionary strategy under certain conditions. Axelrod's 1984 book
'Evolution of co-operation' is a good starting point.

At risk of self-aggandising I refer you to py papers, acessible from URL =

below, where detailed references can be found.

Robin Wood and I address this issue in our complexity seminars [see his
earlier posts for details.

Others on this list may find the Complexity and Management List a useful

will get you to the list archive.

If Price
Active Personal Learning, Guildford UK

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