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    >Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 19:04:51 -0800
    From: "Ronan Dodds" <ronan_meme@lycos.com>
    Subject: Re: Lionel Tiger

    Hi there
    Apparently, in a lot of native American tribal societies homosexuals
    were regarded as very special and treated almost as priests or
    priestesses.† Also, people who would be considered 'crazy' in modern
    industrial societies were also considered to have a special insight and
    perspective on the world.† Here are a couple of relevant articles:

    http://www.oneworld.org/ni/issue201/dreams.htm
    This one describes this respect for sexual diversity in tribal societies
    (or so I'm told; I've not had a chance to read it yet, so can't comment
    on it).

    [can't get to the url for this, server must be down, but its on the
    online journal of memetics]
    This outlines why smaller societies with less resources might be more
    likely to 'host' memes which encourage respect for differences.

    I'd be interested in hearing any comments from listmembers regarding
    these articles.

    Ronan<

    If i can get hrough this mountain of stuff iíve already got iíll get back to
    you. I was aware, once you had reminded me, of the American beliefs. Still
    could do with an answer to the question of keeping young males quiescent in
    a polygamous African society. thanks for trying though. I'm not too sure
    about smaller societies having more respect for differences. Irving Goffman
    did work in this area on the people of the Hebridiean Islands (?), and found
    that they made the best crews on long distance container ships / voyages due
    to their isolationist tendenceis, as well as a high boredom threshhold. In
    marginal societies change from prescribed norms would be a dangerous path to
    follow for the society, which tends to be enacted when there is nothing left
    to try that is familiar. I think John has put something up with regard to
    diversity being a function of the increasing size of societies.
    My feelings would be that as a society increases in in size. aberational
    behaviour becomes more acceptable due to the fact that unless the society is
    rigidly organised, memetic drift will be high, and the idea of normalacy
    will be diffuse.

    Regards

    Steve

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