RE: ply to Grant

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Date: Tue Feb 12 2002 - 16:59:13 GMT

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            <You could also look at it as relocating the work to a new place.
    The people in that area are employed, too. We (you and I) are not just
    talking about job loss here. If someone else is able to do the job more
    cheaply and
    > efficiently, why not give it to him/her instead? Do you want to freeze
    > everyone into the jobs they now hold? That should bring the evolution of
    > manufacturing and production to a screeching halt.>
            Outsourcing means reducing costs- how are costs most easily reduced?
    By the reduction of labour costs, if you can eliminate workers altogether
    then even better (as in robot production lines for cars and other goods).
    The problem is that corporations don't care, and they aren't designed to
    care, what happens to all those people who are either a) forced out of work
    completely, or b) forced to do the same job they did before, but for much
    lower wages under a different company.

            <I notice you seem to look at every social change in a negative
    > Comparing outsourcing with collateral damage by a military organization,
    > for example. That's what I call hyperbolic propaganda. The times they
    > are
    > achangin'. Better get used to it.>
            There's a difference between viewing social change critically, which
    is an essential requirement to properly evaluate change, and viewing it
    negatively (or positively for that matter). Besides, as a lecturer in media
    studies, for me to argue against social change involving technology would be
    a bit rich. Indeed, as my anti-media effects stance should indicate, I'm
    particularly pro-technologies that, IMHO, are socially progressive and not
    harmful as many people have thought (and still think) about all media forms.
    I, of couse, think the media collectively are a pretty good set of

            In many ways, I'd call myself a bit of a futurist looking forward to
    those changes, and this for me is the key, that are in the public interest.
    The facts though suggest that corporate control of key features of
    contemporary life, such as in transportation, involves the deliberate and
    continual denial of technologies (cleaner running cars for example) because
    such technologies would kill those corporations.

            In media too, the myth of the 'free marketplace of ideas' is widely
    demonstrable. Only today I've been reading bits of Richard McCord's 'The
    Chain Gang' about Gannett, the US's largest newspaper chain (over 90 dailies
    across the US, and which also owns Newsquest in the UK, which controls 300
    local papers), and how the company aggressively attempted, sometimes
    successfully, to put rival papers out of business leaving communities with a
    'marketplace' of one paper.

            Of course capitalism is an ideology, and ideology is one for the
    memes in minds fraternity.


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