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>Looking at the replication of memes, mimetic systems
>which accumulate memes are likely to be selected for
>as it contributes to the perpetuation of all memes.
>Thus a city with a wide divergence of craft
>specialists, including the appearance of a "cultured"
>leisured upper class, when conditions permit, would be
>selected for over the simpler tribal organisation
>found in hunter gatherer or nomadic pastoral society.
>The accumulation of people in a city, of adherents in
>a faith, or of profits in a corporation create systems
>of positive feedback loops that eventually run into
>previously determined limits. Sustainability then
>becomes a question of negative feedback loops, the
>avoidance of overshoot and collapse "catastrophistic"
>structures. (Thom's work on catastrophes as ruptures
>in a topological surface is relevant here).
>Interested in your thoughts
I have been talking about culture as an emergent property for a while now.
It seems like a logical conclusion to me. Have you read John Holland's
book, EMERGENCE? I think he was the one who brought the idea to the Santa
Fe Institute, along with Stuart A. Kauffman's THE ORIGINS OF ORDER:
Self-organization and Selection in Evolution.
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