Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id IAA13456 (8.6.9/5.3[ref firstname.lastname@example.org] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from email@example.com); Tue, 12 Feb 2002 08:20:39 GMT Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 00:14:59 -0800 Message-Id: <200202120814.g1C8ExZK025141@mail25.bigmailbox.com> X-Authentication-Warning: mail25.bigmailbox.com: www set sender to firstname.lastname@example.org using -f Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) X-Originating-Ip: [220.127.116.11] From: "Joe Dees" <email@example.com> To: firstname.lastname@example.org Subject: Re: Words and memes: criteria for acceptance of new belief or meme Sender: email@example.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: firstname.lastname@example.org('binary' encoding is not supported, stored as-is)
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> Re: Words and memes: criteria for acceptance of new belief or meme "Wade T.Smith" <email@example.com> firstname.lastname@example.orgReply-To: email@example.com
>>> (Colloquially, we refer to this phenomena by saying that
>>> someone is 'hard to convince', or 'gullible', or 'stubborn'.)
>The equation of memes with beliefs is one of the prime reasons I
>advanced to the behavior-only stance. I don't think there is any
>reasonable proof to show that one's beliefs are what prompts one's
>behavior. (Hell, we have a second brain that tells us when we're
>But there is reasonable proof, in the form of observations and
>artefacts, that one's behavior is intended to transfer meaning.
But where is that meaning stored between receipt and subsequent transference? The same place it may be mutated, i.e. modified: the brain. And the memes-as-behavior stance completely overlooks the efficacy of linguistic coding; 'let's kill' amd 'let's chill' are print and sonically similar, although distinguishable, while the behavior each represents is radically different.
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