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>Subject: Re: Memes Meta-Memes and Politics 1 of 3 (1988, updates 2002)
>Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 00:47:03 EST
>In a message dated 2/11/2002 10:55:04 PM Central Standard Time, Scott Chase
> > Nope. I'd like to give Cloak a serious gander, but I'd appeciate if
> > would give Julian Huxley's stuff on "noogenetics" a look for its
> > proto-memetic bases? I'm still hung up on his use of a term like
> > "self-reproduction" or "self-reproducing" and how this usage ties into
> > he says about mentifacts (and artifacts and socifacts) and noosystems.
> > Huxley's essays found in _Knowledge, Morality and Destiny_ (1957. A
> > Book. New American Library. New York) are "Man's place and role in
> > based on a paper from 1954 and published in 1955. His essay "Evolution,
> > cultural and biological" was published in 1955. These dates come from
> > footnotes in his book.
>This sounds interesting. Could you quote for us some of Huxley's material
>that would count as evolutionary cultural replicator theory, or that is the
>most suggestive of such theory?
Check out my recent posts re: noogenetics vs. memetics. There are some
quotes in those posts.
In short, he talks about cultural evolution and the self-reproduction of
mental products. You saw those posts didn't you? His book with alternative
titles _Knowledge, Morality, & Destiny_ and _New Bottles for New Wine_ can
probably be found in a university or possibly a public library.
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