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From: Grant Callaghan <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> The New World Order is designed to keep the people of every country in
> place and make them solve their own problems rather than letting them run
> other countries and take those problems with them. You won't see that
> written anywhere, but if you examine how NATO and other countries react to
> problems that spill over onto their turf, you will notice the trend. The
> lines on the map are drawn and etched in stone. The world governments
> like the idea of anyone trying to change them.
You are so, unfortunate right here !
But according to Charles Taylor ( Multiculturalism ) that perspective is
completely wrong. He notes that indeed we keep our borders shut, with
no reason he argues because our laws/ rules and constitutions don 't allow
such moves, but where we see the incoming of refugees as a terrible treat,
between 1800 and 1960 with a 80% equal share, we Europeans took
part in intercontinental immigration movements.
So where lies the difference !?
Ronald Dworkin expresses this in the following way.
( Translated from Dutch),
" The community can 't express no substantial point of view about the
matter of immigration and integration and can 't as in an example make
the people believe in being virtious in whatever term, to attempt to make
the constitution in such a way that the normative proceedings can 't be
Just because of the fact that different communities/ socities exist, the
fact can 't be beaten that some people won't bind themselves to the
commmitments of the society where they live in, or to the facts of
being virtious for that matter. " End quote.
And IMO, that is the whole nature of memetics, and the centre- piece
of my personal conviction, you can 't change people where ever they
are, who they are, rich, poor, long, small, fat of humpty dumpties.
Traditional, historical, cultural, religious,.... dispositions blind us all
in eveything we do, where we do it and with whom.
And in that respect we must ' respect' the thoughts people have over
others, even if that means discriminating them_ we can 't escape the
facts which are running around in our heads.
But does that means that in cases of crime passionel the criminal can
walk freely !?
Yes and no !
Yes, if the crime can be explained as the result of the interconnections
of neurons and no, because still than we would have the gut feeling that
' someone ' is inside our head pulling the strings.
And that fact is debateble....
We, the West keep our borders shut because in some sense our memes
tells us that we must, and the immigrants leave their homeland just be-
cause for the same odd reason. We don 't like them and they want to
come in... what is the compromise if we are, both, intellectually blocked !?
Just a notion in regard, in Holland Pim Fortuyn, first candidate on the list
for his party ( A Livible Holland) called out to disregard the in the
stution laid down rule that you won 't discriminate. His own party sacked
him ! Where is the moral ground of governments to substain such IMO
discriminating ruling !?
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