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At 10:51 PM 7/02/02 -0500, you wrote:
>So...the Brits weren't playing both sides were they (courting the Arabs AND
>the Jews with empty promises)?
As I understand this nasty little piece of history, the Brits tried their
best, in the face of massive pressure from international Jewry and the USA
to abandon the Palestinians, to achieve some sort of just outcome. However
the Stern and Irgun terror groups, with lots of support from the USA, made
governing the mandate impossible. The modern State of Israel was the
product of terror. Most of its early leaders had prices on their heads for
terrorism, but that was all forgotten in the re-write. They are the good
guys now - aren't they?
See if you can get Jonathan Dimbleby's book 'The Palestinians' Quartet
I can't recall anything about the Balfour
>Declaration in the movie _Lawrence of Arabia_. It's hard to keep all that
>stuff straight...Balfour declaration, Resolution 242, PLO covenant, etc...
>The Brits (and French) wound up making it up to Israel in the 1956 Suez war,
>that sneaky little end-around play against Egypt without consulting with the
>Merikans. Naughty naughty.
>What's your opinion of the _Washington Report on Middle East Affairs_? It
>takes quite a pro-Palestinian view. I'm not opposed in principle to
>Palestinian statehood, if Palestinians could respect Israel's right to
>exist. Too bad things seem to have backpedalled from the Oslo talks which
>I've been reading about in Mark Perry's _A Fire in Zion_. There were IIRC
>some economists who thought that economic ties could help turn the tide
>between the enemies. I doubt the Israeli hardliners like Sharon are going to
>help the peace process much. I'm not sure what to make of Arafat. Is he
>still hemmed in under watch of Israeli tanks? How's he supposed to "crack
>down" on his more bellicose Palestinians in that situation?
>In Tom Segev's _One Palestine, Complete_ there's something about Chaim
>Weizmann meeting T.E. Lawrence (in Aquaba with Faisal?).
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