Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id GAA18907 (8.6.9/5.3[ref firstname.lastname@example.org] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from email@example.com); Wed, 6 Feb 2002 06:15:20 GMT Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 22:09:36 -0800 Message-Id: <firstname.lastname@example.org> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) X-Originating-Ip: [188.8.131.52] From: "Joe Dees" <email@example.com> To: firstname.lastname@example.org Subject: Re: necessity of mental memes Sender: email@example.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: firstname.lastname@example.org('binary' encoding is not supported, stored as-is)
> "Philip Jonkers" <email@example.com> <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: necessity of mental memesDate: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 19:30:27 -0900
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>From: Joe Dees <email@example.com>
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>Subject: Re: necessity of mental memes
>> >Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 10:51:16 -0500
>> > firstname.lastname@example.org Joachim Maier <email@example.com> Re: necessity
>of mental memesReply-To: firstname.lastname@example.org
>> >>All velocity involves change, but not all change has to be a velocity
>> >>change; IOW, not all change is positional.
>> >I have to admit, the volume of messages was sometimes too high for me,
>> >I did not read all the messages. But could anybody please give me an
>> >example of change were no spacial change is involved?
>> >I still have a hard time to come up with any example where nowhere in the
>> >process of any change there is not also a change in velocity of something
>> What about isotopic decay or the stopping of a spinning sphere? Of
>course, in the first instance, some electrons leave the quantum shield at a
>velocity while the rest remains unchanged, and in the second the circular
>motion is stopped but the sphere as a whole maintains its position. Change
>does involve the movement of SOME of what changes, but not ALL.
>What about recoil Joe? Surely conservation of momentum requires occurrence
>of a recoil manoeuvre of the system minus the jettisoned electron. In case
>spinning sphere, it dissipates its rotational energy to the environment by
>friction. So, spatial change occurs also to the particles comprising the
>keep changing until the sphere grinds to a stand-still.
In the first case, true, but very negligible (and what happens if an electron is jettisoned at opposite locations on the atom from the same quantum shell simultaneously?
Is the second case true in a nongravitational vacuum?
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