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From: "Kenneth Van Oost" <Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be>
Subject: Re: Apoptosis
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Subject: Re: Apoptosis
>Little confused by the question.
> > Apoptosis, the death response of cells.
> > Is there a parallel in neurobiology, i/e/, is the mutation rate of
> > memes linked
> > to the death of other memes !?
>Hi Ray, and John and others who replied,
I will try to eleborate,
If memes were to be multiplicated ( replicated in numbers) do other
die !? Allegedly, not ! They stay all the time somewhere, they can be/
be forgotten, there will be no longer a behavior/ trait/ habit attached
them_ they won 't die in the sense we all think about. They will not
Which info allegedly ' dies ', old information has to go ( memory !?).
Which memes die and does this influence the mutation- rate of any other
meme/ memeplex !?
If memes has to die to let any space for others does this affect the
tion- flow of any other meme/ memeplex !?
And if memes commit suicide, or their death is controlled by others/
neighbours, to let others or themselves propagate, does this influence
mutation- rate/ information- flow of any other meme/ memeplex !?
Is there a mechanism whci supposingly drives memes to ( commit) suicide_
why such a mechanism if it should exist !?
That memes can die out i don't think is in much doubt. Artefacts left behind
from previous civilisations often prompt hte question "what was it for?",
similarly with ritualistic burial etc. We view them outside of thier
culture, and so it means nothing. Sometimes some of the the cultural nuance
can be revived such as ancient Egypt etc
If i understand apoptosis correctly it means that as the cell becomes less
efficient in function, dies, and is replaced by another, up to a point,
beyond which it is not replaced, and we age and die.
Not being a biologist, i don't know. What i would note is that we need to
mive away from some of the biological metaphors that are being used. I have
trouble thinking of a meme that commits suicide. Even the suicide meme needs
to propogate to exist. :- )
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