Re: ply to Grant

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    It IS worth billions.  Just look at the culture that Bill Gates built
    the billions he collected for his efforts.  The same goes for Hewlett
    Packard, Apple and Intel.  They didn't just invent new products.  They
    invented new ways of organizing labor and management so that labor was
    to share the riches and become totally involved in the work they were
      Tom Peters propagated these ideas in his books on how these ideas
    big business.<

    I agree with you and disagree. Asi said earlier, it= thought Naomi Klien had
    the gist of it in that big buisness picked upon the idea of memes without
    any notion of theory. To her it is termed *brand* - it conveys an idea of
    the company and not its products. Hence bill Gates get his billions (He has
    even talked openly about making his software more reliable, which will be
    nice {ok i'm biased i use Apple, ).

    On the minus side, yes some folks did get rich, but if Kliens book is true
    many others got poorer. many of Tom Peters reccomendations are for
    outsourcing. The (any) company becomes a marketing company (meme factory?),
    with the productyion of goods, relegated to contractors, with the use of
    casual labour, far east sweat shops etc I think Aarron referred to this
    danger earlier, and it is a real danger.


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