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>Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 20:27:56 -0500
> Re: Words and memes "Wade T.Smith" <firstname.lastname@example.org> email@example.comReply-To: firstname.lastname@example.org
>On Monday, February 4, 2002, at 07:58 , Keith Henson wrote:
>> I suppose you could call the act of writing down a meme an act of
> From the behavioral-only stance, the writing _is_ the meme, encoding the
>idea in an artefact. But, yes, unless it is read, and then written or
>acted upon by another, it remains at a potentialized state.
>(And I say potentialized because I don't think the behavior-only stance
>allows a 'potential meme', in any way, shape, or form.)
And that is a major flaw with behavior-only; it cannot acknowledge the latent and potential memetic efficacy of communication-designed artifacts, such as books, any more than it can acknowledge same in an idea one is considering/working on. Sorry, but when the tree falls, maybe no one hears the noise, but sound waves are produced; all you have to do to verify same is to manage to place a tape recorder by a soon-to-fall tree, rigged to begin taping when changes are registered in a mercury balance switch (and to perhaps transmit you a signal that the event has occurred), and vacate the auditory premises, to return later for a listen.
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