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>From: "Joe Dees" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>Subject: Re: Abstractism
>Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 18:25:55 -0800
> >Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 17:24:44 -0500
> > Re: Abstractism "Wade T.Smith" <email@example.com>
> >On Saturday, February 2, 2002, at 11:42 , Grant Callaghan wrote:
> >> The Rorschach test conveys information to some of the people who see
> >> it, even though no information was transmitted.
> >> Transmitting an idea is a complicated process that goes far beyond
> >> keying words onto a surface for someone to read.
> >And there you have the cup and the lip.
> >Of course, there's a real problem in you saying that the Rorschach test
> >has no information to transmit. First off, it's man-made. That's a big
> >'duh'. (Okay, it's made by psychologists- you have a point. What real
> >information have any of them ever come up with, after all....) And
> >anything non-chaotic and procedural has information, and the Rorschach
> >tests are always symmetrical designs- far from informationlessness.
>Left-right symmetricality and color (black on white) would seem to be the
>only thing that individual rorshach blots have in common.
Don't people tend to impose some sort of pattern on them blots though? I
know I've looked at some interestingly shaped clouds before.
I'm not saying the typical usage of the ink blots is valid, just
(self-referentially?) reflecting on the capacity we may have to see stuff
that ain't really there, like when a friend of mine once pointed out that a
smallish tree (or shrub?) on the side of the road looked slightly like
Freddy Krueger in a certain angle of the streetlight as we passed by in a
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