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> "Grant Callaghan" <email@example.com> firstname.lastname@example.org Re: Selfish memes ?Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 17:20:20 -0800
>>Subject: Re: Selfish memes ?
>>Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 17:09:15 -0500
>>On Monday, February 4, 2002, at 10:33 , Kenneth Van Oost wrote:
>>>Why can 't altruistic behavior in the extreme not be a case of
>>Society itself is a dance around this- the cultural environment is, like
>>that village we all done heard tell about a few years ago, what raises
>>the child, after all. Sacrifices to that environment are beneficial
>>(they can be...) to that environment, and thus, ones genes are given a
>>further chance to keep going.
>>Strong sociocultural units are survival mechanisms, and always have been.
>>Like ants, however, such 'selfishness' as this sort of altruism is,
>>needs obeisance and dependence.
>Are you implying that the soldiers who seemed so eager to go to Afghanistan
>to fight the Al Quaeda and the Taliban and perhaps lose their lives in the
>process did so out of obeisance and dependence?
Yes, to what their mullahs told them was the will of Allah. The term 'Islam' may be translated as 'Submission'.
>Or perhaps the players in
>the Superbowl suffered the years of broken bones and strained muscles and
>other forms of deprivation for those reasons rather than the hope of finding
>glory? Now I'm beginning to feel disillusioned. ;-(>
Howzabout making money (bonus clauses) and the respect of their peers?
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