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>Subject: Re: Selfish memes ?
>Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 17:09:15 -0500
>On Monday, February 4, 2002, at 10:33 , Kenneth Van Oost wrote:
>>Why can 't altruistic behavior in the extreme not be a case of
>Society itself is a dance around this- the cultural environment is, like
>that village we all done heard tell about a few years ago, what raises
>the child, after all. Sacrifices to that environment are beneficial
>(they can be...) to that environment, and thus, ones genes are given a
>further chance to keep going.
>Strong sociocultural units are survival mechanisms, and always have been.
>Like ants, however, such 'selfishness' as this sort of altruism is,
>needs obeisance and dependence.
Are you implying that the soldiers who seemed so eager to go to Afghanistan
to fight the Al Quaeda and the Taliban and perhaps lose their lives in the
process did so out of obeisance and dependence? Or perhaps the players in
the Superbowl suffered the years of broken bones and strained muscles and
other forms of deprivation for those reasons rather than the hope of finding
glory? Now I'm beginning to feel disillusioned. ;-(>
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