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At 09:05 PM 3/02/02 +0000, Steve wrote:
>I donít share your opinion that memes are just a linguistic problem at the
>moment, though i do agree this is a very important area to examine. There is
>still the question of the extent of biological behaviour, where memetics
>takes over from biology, and what i would term the gene/meme feedback loop
>that that gave rise to society in the first place.
I didn't say that memes were linguistic at all. What I did say was that
through my study of cultural narratives I was able to 'map' a cultural meme
(code) which was specific to that culture. I would add that the code was
discernable in all other artefacts which were recognised as 'valid' within
that culture. The conclusion which I drew from this study was that culture
itself is a human artefact and is the product of its own stories.
It is like the old conundrum of the egg and chicken - the chicken produces
the egg and the egg produces the chicken but both share the same genes.
Snip.......Steve also wrote
>Both Grant and Jeremy seem to have some knowledge of the Far East, so you
>may be able to help me. In an essay for a tutor a few years ago i argued
>that, contrary to her assertion, Japanese racism that was displayed in WW2
>was not the result of capitalism, but that there was a much earlier source.
>ie one of the reason for the closure of Japan,s borders to the outside
>world, which pre-dates the rise of capitalism, was due to the perception of
>outsiders as barbarians with no honour, a form of racism. Needless to say it
>was not well recieved. :- )
>What are your thoughts (or anybody else for that matter) on this?
I think that you were right Steve. It was a meme-team conflict
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