Re: ply to Grant

From: Keith Henson (
Date: Mon Feb 04 2002 - 01:06:04 GMT

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    At 09:05 PM 03/02/02 +0000, "Steve Drew" <>


    >I don't share your opinion that memes are just a linguistic problem at
    >the moment, though i do agree this is a very important area to examine.
    >There is still the question of the extent of biological behaviour, where
    >memetics takes over from biology, and what i would term the gene/meme
    >feedback loop that that gave rise to society in the first place. (For
    >anyone interested, an interesting article can be found
    >at / faculty / richerson / speed, where they talk
    >about the effect of enviroment on the human body and brain, and the
    >beginnings of cultural adaption to the enviroment. This in turn could lead
    >to the meme/gene feedback loop. The article is The Pliestocene and the
    >Origins of Human Culture: Built For Speed, Boyd and Richerson, UCLA).

    There is a wealth of good material on this site. I am going to have to
    spend time reading through it. Alas! Due to an upcoming lecture it will
    be a week before I can free up enough time to read it entirely. Here is a
    great quote I found at

    "Memes are not a universal acid, but they are a better mouse trap.
    Population modeling of
    culture offers social science useful conceptual tools, and handy
    mathematical machinery
    that will help solve important, longstanding problems. It is not a
    substitute for rational
    actor models, or careful historical analysis. But it can be an invaluable
    complement to
    these forms of analysis that will enrich the social sciences."

    Keith Henson

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