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>On Saturday, February 2, 2002, at 11:42 , Grant Callaghan wrote:
>>The Rorschach test conveys information to some of the people who see
>>it, even though no information was transmitted.
>>Transmitting an idea is a complicated process that goes far beyond
>>keying words onto a surface for someone to read.
>And there you have the cup and the lip.
>Of course, there's a real problem in you saying that the Rorschach test
>has no information to transmit. First off, it's man-made. That's a big
>'duh'. (Okay, it's made by psychologists- you have a point. What real
>information have any of them ever come up with, after all....) And
>anything non-chaotic and procedural has information, and the Rorschach
>tests are always symmetrical designs- far from informationlessness.
The way I understand it, Mr. Rorschach just spilled some ink on a piece of
paper and folder it over with no intention of transmitting a message. He
was creating a convenient equivalent of clouds for his patients. I think
intention has a great deal to do with transmitting messages. Anything
transmitted without intent is not a message.
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