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> "Dace" <firstname.lastname@example.org> <email@example.com> Beam me up, ScottyDate: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 11:29:23 -0800
>> >> > Dimensions are just ways of looking at
>> >> > space by comparing one arbitrarily chosen section of it to another.
>> >> > Again, the comparison takes place in the brain and not in space.
>> >> >
>> >> > Grant
>> How do you know that it might, instead of being stored in the "brain"
>> (that amorpous clump of mush that couldn't possibly "store" memories),
>> not be beamed to you morphically? Perhaps your amorpous clump of
>> mush acts as an antenna and is tuned to the right frequency, the species
>Do fill us in on your little sci-fi fantasy, Scott.
>> Has the hook set well? Can I start reeling it in? Either I'm trolling Ted
>> the Sheldrakian or Grant who might be too new to know Ted's source
>> of inspiration.
>I've never suggested that form (morphe) is beamed into our heads. My claim
>is that memory is a property of nature. What distinguishes life from, say,
>books and computers, is that living things possess natural memory-- the
>retention of the past-- while books and computers rely on storage of
How droll. And disingenuous. The manner in which our brains store information (in configurations of dendrite-and-axon-connected neurons)IS natural; it naturally evolved.
>Btw, this is Bergson, not Sheldrake. And it was Elsasser, rather than
>Sheldrake, who first applied Bergson to organisms. Elsasser realized that
>organisms would have no way of knowing how to develop from the egg without
>some kind of "holistic memory." As a physicist, he rejected the notion that
>DNA could somehow set in motion a purely physical process of development.
>He based his reasoning on the fact that physical systems can be understood
>according to fairly simple calculations, whereas biological systems are
So he was a physicist, ayy? That explain a lot, like, why he was unable to understand the idea of informational encoding in DNA like any reasonable biologist can.
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