RE: Abstractism

From: Ray Recchia (
Date: Tue Jan 29 2002 - 03:12:55 GMT

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    I took this from Keith's post but I think I am just quoting Grant and If.

    At 07:29 PM 1/28/2002 -0500, you wrote:
    >At 01:12 PM 28/01/02 -0800, "Grant Callaghan" <>
    > wrote:
    >>> > From: Grant Callaghan []
    >>> > I'm rapidly approaching the conclusion that no two people can
    >>> > agree on what
    >>> > the term "meme" refers to.
    >>>Which helps the 'meme' replicate. I understand there is research in
    >>>press (Wheeler) which identifies 9 different communities of scientists
    >>>using variations in their interpretatation of 'gene'. Signifiers get
    >>>replicated but do not have to show fidelity of 'signified' (as I have
    >>>asserted before)

    In the language of fitness landscape modeling one would say that epistatic
    interactions between a meme and other memes will create different optima
    for the term 'meme' depending on the environment of other memes and the
    effect that the definition of varying definitions of 'meme' has upon their
    fitness. In other words, rather than have a ideal definition of 'meme'
    which is consistent across a population we have multiple definitions which
    are locally optimized within differing individuals minds depending on what
    other memes they have.

    Ray Recchia

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