Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id BAA27612 (8.6.9/5.3[ref email@example.com] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from firstname.lastname@example.org); Sat, 26 Jan 2002 01:17:27 GMT Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:13:08 -0800 Message-Id: <200201260113.g0Q1D8q24070@mail15.bigmailbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) X-Originating-Ip: [184.108.40.206] From: "Joe Dees" <email@example.com> To: firstname.lastname@example.org Subject: RE: Rogue Males by Lionel Tiger Sender: email@example.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: firstname.lastname@example.org('binary' encoding is not supported, stored as-is) It is indeed difficult to see how women can choose to reject what they are not free to accept.
> "Lawrence DeBivort" <email@example.com> <firstname.lastname@example.org> RE: Rogue Males by Lionel TigerDate: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 07:46:41 -0500
>Yes, Francsca's suggestion is a good one. We are talking here across so many
>perceptual divides: men and women; this or that individual vs the
>generalizations we may offer about larger groups; Westerners and Arabs and
>Muslims; generational perspectives, etc. Add to this the frailties of human
>written communication, and to that the reality that perspectives of all do
>evolve over time. Hard to remember the time only 5 generations ago when the
>ideal family, an ideal shared by both women and men in the US, was composed
>of one male wage-earner working for a single employer lifetime, immutably
>married to one female home-maker and rearer of children, and a suburban
>existence marked by gradual acquistion of wealth, and, finally, a retirement
>marked by charitable volunteering, travel and grandchildren visits.
>Then, in the US, along came VietNam, the women's liberation movement, worker
>discontent with corporate paternalism. The rules began to shift, but not in
>the same way for everyone, and certainly not around the world in the same
>way or at the same pace. Against this shifting panorama of human hopes and
>fears, demands and concessions, we struggle to understand not only the
>world, and our associates within it, but ourselves. It is an honorable and
>> I do think that if you were
>> open to seeing these things from the women's point of view, and
>> appreciating their dilemma you might be one step closer to helping
>> change things. Let's see if we can salvage some sort of productive
>> discussion from all of this.
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