Re: necessity of mental memes

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    > "Dace" <> <> Re: necessity of mental memesDate: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:13:43 -0800
    >From: Joe Dees
    >>>You know, one thing about this speed of light thing and traveling through
    >>>the galaxy has always puzzled me. In literature on modern cosmology I
    >>>keep reading that the universe is around 15 billion years old since the
    >>>big bang from which everything started. We now have telescopes that
    >>>can bring in light that left galaxies some 12 to 15 billion years ago.
    >>>if the big bang started us all out from the same point at the same time,
    >>>and nothing can travel faster than light, how did we get here first to
    >>>receive that light? It's a puzzlement.
    >> The light expanded both utward and inward in the hypersphere, which has
    >similar properties as a 3-d sphere (actually 4-d - 3 spatial plus 1
    >temporal), but in different planes. For instance, if you travel in one
    >direction on the curved surface of a sphere, you will end up where you
    >started after circumnavigating it. In a hypersphere, whichever direction
    >you travel in its space, you will eventually not reach the edge, but arrive
    >at the point you left after traveling a distance equivalent to the width of
    >the sphere (due to spacetime curvature). Thus, no matter from where you
    >look, to look out in space is to look backward in time, for the deeper you
    >look, the farther the light from what you see had to go to get to you.
    >Light generated by the Big Bang - which was everywhere in the universe at
    >the moment of bangage - has to travel the longest distance.
    >Just one problem here. The big bang was pitch black. Light didn't appear
    >until 300,000 years after the big bang (which was both infinitesimal and
    >dead silent). The universe was completely dark until the primordial
    >substance divided into matter and radiation. Atoms and light emerged
    Extremely wrong; radiant energy proliferated throughout the universe long before any coalescence into atomic structure occurred (I believe someone else has provided you with a reference on this).
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