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> "Philip Jonkers" <email@example.com> <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: Grant's theory of EverythingDate: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 22:27:43 -0900
>I find i agree with a lot that you have said, and that we do have many
>choices in the memes we accept. Where i disagree is that we have been
>exposed to various memes throughout our lives that we do not neccesarily
>question without a great deal of thought, and that many people either do not
>do , will not do it or cannot do it. Hence they accept memes that are close
>to the one they posses without hte scrutiny that they should deserve, and
>act accordingly. eg. If i said to you that Hitler was not that bad a bloke,
>you would likely not agree! (and evryone else hopefully!) :-). But for
>some reason in the 1930's a lot did. And if they didn't they at least kept
>stum. This is what i mean by the idea that memetic acceptance/ rejection is
>one of a spectrum rather than a simple filter that we chose to interpret the
>world in terms of our 'wants'.
>Both yourself and Philip are at least attempting to to narrow the field a
>bit and good luck to you both for trying.
>About the the freedom we have in chosen memes we like: you should not
>forget that memes shape who we are. Ideas and ideologies we adopt are in
>resonance with memes we already adopted. Memes code the brain, and in a
>way the metaphore memes selecting memes is not so bad.
>I think the actual freedom one has in chosing between one meme or
>another is not that big. Emotions play a crucial role in the selection
>emotions in turn are steered by thoughts, ideas, notions, opinions each of
>which is memetic also.
It is a matter of creative co-evolution; our prior memes strongly influence but do not absolutely dictate those we will subsequently accept, and our choices constrain but do not absolutely delineate the future meme to which we may choose to be open (or not). Freedom is not absolute, but neither is it absent.
>Thanks for your encouragement Steve....
>BTW how did you learn speed-reading?
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