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> "Dace" <firstname.lastname@example.org> <email@example.com> Re: A Confusing ExampleDate: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 10:33:49 -0800
>From: Francesca S. Alcorn
>> >That different regions of the brain are associated with different
>> >aspects of mental functioning doesn't mean the brain is somehow
>> >generating or directing or storing any of this mental existence. The
>> >brain knows nothing of what it facilitates.
>> The model which I read (a few years ago now, so maybe it has changed)
>> suggests that learning results in increased sensitivity at the
>> synapses, and increased connections among neurons. Thus learning
>> and experience *directly* change the structure of the brain.
>Sure. But that doesn't mean the brain itself learns or has experiences.
>When I learned how to tie my shoes, no doubt this had an effect on my brain.
>But that doesn't mean my brain learned how to tie shoes. The only thing
>that happened in my brain is that a few neurons forged some new connections.
>That the brain facilitates mental activity cannot, by itself, constitute
>proof that it contains or is in some way identical to mental activity.
>Given the abstract and representational nature of mentality, it seems absurd
>that mind could be reduced to any physical object, including the brain.
>(Since when did an atom "represent" another atom?) That memes are in the
>mind doesn't mean they're in the brain. The brain's activities facilitate
>memes as much as any other aspect of human consciousness.
The dynamically recursive mind that emerges from the complex material substrate brain experiences and acts.
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