Grant's theory of Everything

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    I only state here what I believe.  I don't expect everyone else to
    it, too.  I wrote an open letter to Susan explaining my view and why it
    different from hers.  I doubt she ever saw it, but several other members
    this forum have come forth to take her side of the arguement.

    My view is based on the idea that memes are chosen by people for their
    useability rather than the people being chosen by the memes.  I see
    memes as
    the tools we use to build our culture and hold our society together.
    memes we choose and discard (or let fall by the wayside) is a function
    how well they enable us to do the job we are attempting to do.  If I
    want a
    woman to marry me, there is a collection of courtship memes I can draw
    to help me convince her.

    The memes I choose will depend on my impressions of her and what I think
    will apeal to her.  If my choices are wrong, I lose and I'm not likely
    make the same choices again.  If she accepts me, my choices have been
    correct and I am likely to tell everyone else who faces the same problem
    what worked for me.  That perpetuates the successful memes and spreads
    among the people I communicate with.

    That's the process as I see it working.  There may be more to it than
    what I
    see, as there is more to just about everything than what I see.  I don't
    think I'm alone in that.  Other views may be more useful than my own,
    but I
    haven't been able to incorporate them into my particular world view yet.
    I'm still working on my "Theory of Everything."

    Grant  ;-)>

    I find i agree with a lot that you have said, and that we do have many
    choices in the memes we accept. Where i disagree is that we have been
    exposed to various memes throughout our lives that we do not neccesarily
    question without a great deal of thought, and that many people either do not
    do , will not do it or cannot do it. Hence they accept memes that are close
    to the one they posses without hte scrutiny that they should deserve, and
    act accordingly. eg. If i said to you that Hitler was not that bad a bloke,
    you would likely not agree! (and evryone else hopefully!) :-). But for
    some reason in the 1930's a lot did. And if they didn't they at least kept
    stum. This is what i mean by the idea that memetic acceptance/ rejection is
    one of a spectrum rather than a simple filter that we chose to interpret the
    world in terms of our 'wants'.

    Both yourself and Philip are at least attempting to to narrow the field a
    bit and good luck to you both for trying.

    As i say i see a spectrum.

    Look forward to your comments,


    Ps for Francesca,. I only started reading this in Nov 2001 and i'm
    struggling to keep up.
    Any one got any tips? (yes i do speed read)


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