Re: Scientology

From: Joachim Maier (
Date: Mon Jan 21 2002 - 21:53:21 GMT

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    Scott, I do not question at all the possibility that memes, ideas, or
    whatever, can influence people. I'm influenced by viewing a stand of old
    growth trees very substantially (I'm a forester), and I would be foolish to
    doubt that ideas can influence people.
    What I doubt is that the meme, or old growth stand, or whatevery, wants to
    influence me.

    I'm reading at the moment Howard Bloom's The Lucifer Principle, and liked
    it a lot, for the first 100 pages or so. Now I see that he talks about a
    superorganism when he talks about nations, and the meme is the brain of
    these organisms. And the meme reward people who follow it.
    I fear that comes very close to fascist language, Volkskörper, Volksgeist.
    (BTW I was appalled by his treatment of the Islam question. But that's a
    different topic)
    >>Scott Chase wrote
    >It's possible that the relationship between people and ideas is a two-way
    >street. People can influence ideas and ideas can influence people. There
    >are times when a particular idea can become a puppetmaster, but OTOH
    >people can also hold the reins on ideas or actively mold them instead of
    >solely being passively molded by the ideas.
    >I think its a good idea to use the word idea.

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